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# Talking Metaverse podcast

How do you define metaverse? How do the experts in this field define it? Is AR dead? Are we all just waiting for web3? Listen to Immersal's Talking Metaverse podcast and you will know.

You can find the latest podcast episode at the top of the heap.

The podcast is also available on [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/3nU2moGWTeCJKxcWWySluf?si=ZDDeDkTwSyGV2Xkem2M5Bw), [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-metaverse/id1625464011) and [Google Podcasts](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy85MzkxYzExNC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw).

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## Transformation of Industrial Work | TALKING METAVERSE Ep.24

In this episode, Karoliina Salminen talks about advancing immersive technologies in industrial work.

 

VTT is one of Europe’s leading research institutions bringing together people, business, science and technology to solve the biggest challenges in today's work.

 

 

 

 

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## Excited about VPS and AUGMENTED REALITY | TALKING METAVERSE Ep. 23

In this episode, we are joined by Theo and Declan from Graviton Interactive. Their mission is to introduce immersive technologies to new audiences, because they believe that extended reality provides truly memorable experiences like never before in helping brands engage, educate, and innovate. 

 

 

 

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## TOO EARLY FOR METAVERSE? | Talking Metaverse | Episode 22

In this episode we are joined by Tony Bevilacqua from Vancouver, Canada. Tony is the founder and CEO of Cognitive3D with a vision to change the way human behavior is measured and analyzed.

 

We discuss how it might be too soon for the term “Metaverse” as a consumer marketing term, the benefits and drawbacks of simulation vs reality, and the importance of privacy and data use policies.

 

 

 

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## TRAINING AND EDUCATING WITH VR | Talking Metaverse | Ep.21 | Friends with Holograms

In this episode, our guest is Cortney Harding who is the founder of Friends with Holograms - a VR and AR Agency.

 

Topics of the discussion include "workplace at metaverse", the role of holograms and avatars in training, how large corporations take advantage of VR in training, and also our favorite question: How to define metaverse. 

 

 

 

 

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## TALKING METAVERSE | Ep.20: Luxury Fashion and NFTs

In this episode, our guest is Emma Kirjavainen who is a luxury marketing specialist, currently in glamourous south of France, talks about luxury fashion and NFTs in metaverse.

 

Topics of the discussion include web3 and differences in that area between Finland and France, NFTs, and much more.

 

 

 

 

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## CAPTURING REALITY: Creating an Accurate Representation of the Real World

In this episode, Paul Burrows and Matthew Bester from Leica Geosystems discuss the power of autonomous laser scanning giving humans the ability to manipulate environments like never before.

 

Topics of the discussion include digital twins, accurate mapping for smart cities, different corporate and consumer use cases and advanced simulations, and much more.

 

 

 

 

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## IMPROVING HUMAN WELL-BEING | Metaverse Adoption in Asia with Sami Luukkonen from NCS Singapore

In this episode, our guest is Sami Luukkonen, Managing Director of Telco+ at Singtel Group NCS. We discuss at least the following topics: metaverse adoption in Asia, the role of telcos in the metaverse and it's monetization opportunities. The discussion touches also on "digital downhill" and improving human well-being.

 

 

 

 

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## The Philosophy of Metaverse

In this episode, our guest Matthew Bester from Leica Geosystems talks about the evolution of human technology all the way from the beginning of agriculture.

 

 

 

 

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## TALKING METAVERSE | Helsinki XR Center and the Finnish Ecosystem

In this episode, our guest is Jussi Salonen from the Helsinki XR Center. Since 2019 Helsinki XR Center has been the home of Extended Reality in Finland - as an incubator for talent, a cultural hub for artists, entrepreneurs, engineers, scientists, students and enthusiasts in the field of virtual and augmented reality.

 

 

 

 

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## Discovering my gender identity through AR | TALKING METAVERSE at AWE LISBON 2022

In this episode, Nathan C Bower, CMO of AWE chats to Tan at this year's AWE EU event in Lisbon, Portugal.

 

 

 

 

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## TALKING METAVERSE from GITEX 2022 in Dubai

Immersal was attending GITEX in Dubai and Tan caught up with Ali Hantal who is the Founder of XR Masters and Governing Board Member at Open AR Cloud.

 

 

 

 

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## TALKING METAVERSE: Is it possible to define the Metaverse yet?

Selected highlights from the Season 2 of Talking Metaverse. Over the past 6 months, we've asked various experts from different technological fields to share ideas. In this clip, the question is: "Is it possible to define the Metaverse in one sentence?"

 

 

 

 

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## Terry xR. Schussler talks about Telcos in the Metaverse

In this episode of Talking Metaverse, we are joined by Terry xR. Shussler from Deutsche Telekom. As you can see he is very passionate about technology and one of the more knowledgable speakers on the development of the Metaverse.

 

 

 

 

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## TALKING METAVERSE with IMMERSAL

Immersal  experts share their views on where metaverse development is going and why spatial mapping is a crucial part of the development.

 

 

 

 

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## WHY AT&T IS INTERESTED IN THE METAVERSE

In this episode, Igor Glubochansky joins us to discuss the role of telcos in building the Metaverse, and in particular, how AT&T is planning to enable experiences with 5G.

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## TALKING METAVERSE : WHERE IS THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN 'REALITY' AND 'METAVERSE'?

In this episode of TALKING METAVERSE, our guest is Genya Smagin who is the Senior Manager in Metaverse Investment and Partnerships at SK Telecom. Genya joins us from Seoul, South Korea - a place that he feels could be the capital of the Metaverse!

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## TALKING METAVERSE : FUTURE STADIUM EXPERIENCE with Rakuten

Dr. Kelvin Cheng from Rakuten joins us from Tokyo, Japan to talk about creating a novel sports-watching experience in stadiums by making use of state-of-the-art technology that takes advantage of 5G.

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## TALKING METAVERSE : The role of Telcos in building the next generation

Conversation between Immersal's Tan Lay and Julian Gorman, Head of Asia Pacific at GSMA.

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## POST-TEXT INTERNET : Talking Metaverse with Leslie Shannon

Fun conversation with Nokia's Leslie Shannon on what some of the Metaverse technologies and experiences will be like.

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## TELCOS IN THE METAVERSE | Opportunities for Mobile Operators

5G, Cloud & Telecommunications expert Kanesh Govindasamy shares his thoughts on use cases and potential opportunities in the Metaverse for mobile network operators today.

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## Metaverse Technologies with VR/AR Expert Jeremy Dalton

Jeremy Dalton is an author, keynote speaker, and one of the leading voices in AR/VR/XR. He also holds down a day job as Head of Metaverse Technologies at PwC UK.

 

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## "I'VE GIVEN UP ON AR!" | Talking Metaverse with Matt Miesnieks

Matt Miesnieks has had a long and successful career in AR. He is the former CEO of acclaimed augmented reality startup 6D.ai which was acquired by Niantic Inc. He is also a former investor with Super Ventures. Here, he talks to Tan about why he's given up on AR, and what's he doing next!

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## TALKING METAVERSE | Experiencing Information

"Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn." Emerging technologies may allow us to learn better by involving us!

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## TALKING METAVERSE | What is the metaverse?

There are lots of detailed definitions of the metaverse online, but here, in Episode 1, Ale will attempt to pack a lot of ideas into a 3-word definition.

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